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BALDWIN I, Ironarm, Count of Flanders, and Judith
Baldwin I, Ironarm. (Iron Arm)(Bras der Fer). First Count of Flanders. (Boudouin II).
Born about 837/840, probably in Flanders, Belgium; son of Odacre. (Audacer/Odoacer-S9).
He married Judith probably in January of 862 at the Monastery of Senlis in France. They eloped together and hid out from the wrath of her father until October 862, when they fled to her uncle Lothair. Charles was not pleased, and he had Baldwin excommunicated. Baldwin and Judith responded by traveling to Rome to plead their case to Pope Nicholas I. With the Pope's intervention Charles the Bald had to relent, and accepted the marriage. They were then officially married at Auxerre. To give Baldwin proper status, Charles made him count of Ghent. In the following years Baldwin was also given the counties of Ternois and Flanders. They made their residence in Flanders, thus becoming the first Count of Flanders.
Baldwin died in 879 A.D at Arras, Pas-de-Calais, France.
Judith. (Princess of the FRANKS, Queen of England)(Judith Martel)
Born (in 840-S4)(about 843-S7)(in 1844-S5)(probably in OCT 844-S5) in France; daughter of CHARLES II The Bald and ERMENTRUDE.
She was forced by her father to marry (1) ∆thelwulf, King of Wessex on 1 OCT 856 at Verberie sur Oise, France. He was 51 and she was 13. ∆thelwulf died on 13 JAN 858.
After the death of ∆thelwulf she was married (2) to his son ∆ethelbald in (After FEB-S5) 858. ∆ethelbald was (18)(24-S5) and she was still (13-S5)(14). (Before-S5)(After) his death, the marriage was annulled (in 860-S3,S5), and she was confined at Senlis.
She eloped (3) with Baldwin I, Ironarm, Count of Flanders [F2492427050] in JAN 862. He was 23, she was 18. They were probably married at the monastary of Senlis before they eloped. They hid until OCT 862 when they went to their uncle Lothair for protection. From there they fled to Pope Nicholas I for protection. They were then officially married at Auxerre. The Church did not demand parental consent, though it frowned on its absence.
She died (in 870-S4,S5)(after 870)(after 879-S7).
CHILDREN of BALDWIN I Ironarm and JUDITH:
- BALDWIN II, Count of Flanders. He was also called "The Bald." Born (in 864)(about 863-S6) in Flanders. He became Count of Flanders in 879. He married ∆lfthryth of Wessex, daughter of Alfred the Great and Ealhswith of Mercia. He died on 10 September 918.
- Widnille Countess Of Flanders
- Rudolf (Raoul, Ralph) Count CAMBRAY (Cambrai). Born (in 865-S4, S6)(about 867) in Flanders, Nord, France. He became Abbot of Cambrai. He died 17 JUN 896.
- Charles Of Flanders (S6). S9 says: This supposed son is known only from late sources [e.g., "Balduinus Ferreus, primus comes, filius Audachri per Judith uxorem, illustrissimus fuit, cum ea esset Calvi Caroli cesaris et regis Francorum, filia, ex Ermentrude propria uxore; ex qua liberi prodierunt: Carolus brevis vite, Balduinus, Rodulphus quoque, Cameracensis comes." Flandrie comites, secundum Jacobum Balliolanum, Guťrard (1840), 11; Sproemberg (1936), 947, n. 2, attributes the same claim to Oudegherst, p. 46 (not seen by me)]. One possible explanation of how this claim could have arisen as an error is that the statement that Baldwin II got his nickname of Calvus from his maternal grandfather [Chronicon sancti Bavonis, s.a. 980, de Smet 1: 495], if later distorted and misinterpreted, could have led to the present claim. (S9).
- Gunhilda (Guinidilda), of Flanders. (S6,S7,S8). She married Wilfred, The Hairy, Count Of Barcelona. Note that source 9 says that Guinidilda is a falsely attributed daughter of Baldwin Ironarm: Gesta comitum Barcinonensium (of which this part was composed shortly after 1160) states that Guifred impregnated a daughter (unnamed) of the count of Flanders (also unnamed) and later married her [see RHF 9: 68]. Later authors have expanded the story to identify this girl with Guifred's known wife Guinidilda, with the count of Flanders in question being variously identified as Baldwin I or Baldwin II [e.g., Anselme 2: 714]. There is no good reason to accept this late and legendary source on this point. The legend is probably modelled on the story of Baldwin and Judith [see Freedman (1988), 15-6, 18 n. 54]. (S9).
- [S1]. Carolingian Chronicles. Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories. Translated by Bernhard Walter Scholz and Barbara Rogers. 1970. Ann Arbor:Univ. of Michigan Press.
- [S2]. http://www.lds.npl.com/link/?1015767653.
- [S3]. The official website of Alynia H. Rule. http://www.ancuairt.org/genealogy/cerdic.htm.
- [S4]. The Counts of Holland. Dutch Royal Genealogy. http://www.xs4all.nl/~kvenjb/genealogy_nl/holland/holland.htm. Uses as sources: Graven van Holland (880-1580) by D.E.H. de Boer & E.H.P. Cordfunke, Gravinnen van Holland (Huwelijk en huwelijkspolitiek) by E.H.P. Cordfunke, De band tussen Oranje-Nassau en Nederland by A.L. Carstens, Europšische Stammtafeln by the Prince zu Isenburg & D. Schwennicke, Erzšhlende genealogische Stammtafeln by A. Thiele, Het ontstaan van de Hoekse en Kabeljauwse twisten by dr. H.M. Brokken, Nassau en Oranje (in de Nederlandse geschiedenis) by dr. C.A. Tamse.
- [S5]. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Martel.
- [S6]. Reunion, from Leister Productions, Inc. Created 19 Nov 2004. http://mostyn.com/Genealogy/Father/Family/WC10/WC10_045.HTM
- [S7]. Ancestors of Carl G. Lawrence, Jr. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lawrpaul/lawrancs-p/p17.htm#i15744
- [S8]. Wilfred the Hairy. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_the_Hairy.
- [S9]. Baldwin I "Iron-arm" (Baudouin I "Bras de Fer", Balduinus Ferreorum-brachiorum). Compiled by Stewart Baldwin. http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/baldw001.htm.
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