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Thurstine de Basset
Thurstine de BASSET. The Norman. [Our Basset Ancestors], [Familytree].
Born (about 1035-S4)(about 1040) of Ouilly Basset, Normandy, France (S4); son of Fouque de BASSET.
He is said to be of Drayton, in Staffordshire, England (S1), but this is now questioned:
Genealogists over many years have held the mistaken belief that the progenitor of the Bassett family in England was one Thurstan Basset. As early as the sixteenth century, Sampson Erdeswicke proclaimed “Turstin de Basset” as owner of five hides of land at Drayton, Staffordshire, and as father of Ralph Basset, Chief Justice of England. (Erdeswicke’s thorough manuscript was not published until the nineteenth century).
Erdeswicke based this claim on an entry in the Domesday Book naming “Turstin” as lord of the manor of “Draiton” in the landholdings of Staffordshire. A manor, which was known later as Drayton Bassett, became the main seat of the Lords Basset of Drayton. It was reasonable to assume that in 1086 the lord of the manor was named Thurstan Basset and that his lands descended to his son Ralph Basset, the Justiciar and his descendants.
Unfortunately the entry in Domesday Book on which this supposition was made is an error. This was pointed out by the Rev. R.W. Eyton in 1881. Eyton explained in his Errata that, in compiling the fair version of the Domesday Book for Staffordshire, the details of a tenement in Oxfordshire named “Draiton” were accidentally duplicated by the scribes into the Staffordshire pages. The scribes made a further error by writing the name as “Turstin”, whereas the holder of “Draitone” in Oxfordshire was “Turchil” i.e. “Thorkil of Warwick”, whose lands have nothing to do with the Bassets. Erdeswicke gives credit to Ms. Charlotte Sophia Burne for pointing this out to him. The lands at Drayton Bassett in Staffordshire were held by the king at the time of the Domesday Survey in 1086, not by the fictitious Thurstan Basset. Further, Drayton Bassett only came to the Basset family through the marriage of Ralph’s son Richard Basset to Matilda Ridel (granddaughter of Hugh earl of Chester) in 1120-3. The Basset family originated at Montreuil-au-Houlme in the Duchy of Normandy. (S3).
So the question is, if Thurstine was not a real person, who then was the correct father of Ralph Basset of Drayton Basset, Staffordshire, England.
There is another possibility, that Fouque de Basset did indeed have a son named Thurstine or Thurstan, but not the one purported to be the original owner of lands in Staffordshire. Of course, the question is how to verify exactly who were the correct sons of Fouque, and what is their history.
He died about 1080. (S4).
CHILDREN of Thurstine de BASSET:
- Ralph BASSET. [Familytree]. (S1,S2,S4). Born (about 1076-S2)(in 1086-S1), in Drayton Basset, Staffordshire, England. He was Chief Justice of England under Henry I. He married a lady only know by the letter A, but often called Alice de BUCI without documentation. He died in 1120 at Abbey Adington, Berkshire, England. (S5).
- Maude de Basset. (S?). Born about 1088, in Drayton Basset, Staffordshire, England. She married William Comyn.
- [S1]. Descendants of Thurstine, the Norman, of Drayton STS. Bassett Families, 1086 - 1877. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/ODTs/BASSETT.shtml#BASS256.
- [S2]. Thurston Basset. Our Family Tree. http://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/Thurston-Basset/p1179.
- [S3]. Basset Family. Revolvy. https://www.revolvy.com/page/Basset-family
- [S4]. Basset of England. http://www.geneajourney.com/basset.html
- [S5]. Ralph BASSET, Justice Of England . Genealogy - KNIGHTs from Continental Europe to England/Ireland, to Philadelphia (PA), to France -Sept. 2018. http://knight-france.com/geneal/names/1063.htm.
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